In Part 3 of our three-part interview series with Unlimited Sciences, Daniel McQueen shares his vision for DMTx. Beyond personal healing or spiritual insight, he explores how extended stay DMT could support innovation, cultural repair, and even global problem-solving, if paired with strong community ethics.

In Part 3 of our three-part interview series with Unlimited Sciences, Daniel McQueen shares his vision for DMTx. Beyond personal healing or spiritual insight, he explores how extended stay DMT could support innovation, cultural repair, and even global problem-solving, if paired with strong community ethics.
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From the 1990s DMT research of Rick Strassman to Andrew Gallimore’s extended-state models, the idea of longer, more stable DMT sessions has fascinated scientists and psychonauts alike. What Daniel McQueen adds is not only the technology to make it real, but the ethical frameworks to make it sustainable.
The dream of psychedelics healing the world won’t come true through visions alone. It requires community, consent, and integration. With DMTx, we may finally have the tools, and the structures, to begin exploring that possibility
Daniel McQueen:
“That’s the million-dollar question. If psychedelics can heal the planet, why aren’t they already? We’ve had access to them for decades.
The truth is, psychedelics require strong ethical structures to support their potential. If we just take mushrooms or DMT and have a big vision, nothing changes unless we bring it back and integrate it. Communities need consent agreements, codes of conduct, and accountability to create stability. Without that, things blow out.
Big visions require strong structures. That’s what DMTx keeps teaching me. If we want psychedelics to contribute to collective healing, we have to build the frameworks to hold them.”
Daniel:
“When I enter a DMTx session, I’ll sometimes take a question with me. Not just a personal question, but something that really matters, like, how do I support the development of this program?
In one journey, the answer was crystal clear: keep building the structure. That wasn’t lofty or abstract. It was practical, grounded advice that’s shaping the way I run this work.
I’ve seen clients use this method too. One entrepreneur came in with a list of seven big questions. After a two-hour infusion, he had clear answers to every single one. These weren’t trivial things, they were major life decisions.
That’s what I mean by critical problem solving. We’re not just floating around in visions. We’re engaging the space with intention, and when done ethically, the answers can ripple back into the real world.”
Daniel:
“Right now, the biggest barrier is infrastructure. Every round of development takes significant resources, legal work, medical oversight, program design. We’ve built this program on our own, with very little outside funding, and it’s grown as far as it has because of hard work and a lot of prayer.
The next step is to make DMTx more accessible. That means lowering costs, expanding training, and eventually creating a space designed specifically for this work. Benefactors or aligned organizations could play a huge role by helping us build that infrastructure so this can become something communities truly have access to.”
Daniel:
“I see several possible pathways. One is clinical, also working with trauma, end-of-life care, or even autoimmune conditions. We’ve noticed extended low-dose infusions seem to have anti-inflammatory effects. That could be groundbreaking if researchers study it further.
Another pathway is innovation. Imagine a group of experts, scientists, environmentalists, spiritual leaders, coming into a session together with a shared question. If even one person brought back an inspired, practical solution, that could be transformative.
And then there’s the spiritual community aspect. I’m not naturally drawn to the idea of churches, but to hold this practice with integrity, we may need to build spiritual communities around it. That way, the ethical structures and consent agreements are baked into the practice itself.”
Daniel:
“That’s part of the long-term vision. Right now, one person at a time is all we can safely manage. Eventually, we may be able to hold two people at once, friends, partners, or colleagues entering together.
The big dream is small groups, four people at a time, maybe in a retreat setting. Imagine four innovators entering together, asking a shared question about climate change, or interfaith leaders exploring how to bridge divides. The integration afterward would be just as important as the journey. But if it’s done well, the potential is enormous.”
Daniel:
“What if it’s real? That’s the question I keep coming back to. What if these experiences really can help us regenerate the planet, strengthen communities, and heal ourselves?
If that’s even possible, we can’t afford to ignore it. But we also can’t romanticize it. Psychedelics alone won’t save us. Structure, ethics, and integration are what make transformation sustainable.
And here’s the other piece, you don’t have to wait for DMTx. The same principles apply with cannabis, mushrooms, or breathwork. Ask the big questions. Set intentions. Create community agreements. Practice integration. We’re all obligated right now to use what we have to move toward healing, inclusivity, and regeneration. Don’t wait for the perfect tool. Do the work where you are.”
DMTx is more than extended DMT. It’s a vision for how psychedelics, paired with ethics and community, could support healing and innovation at every scale, from the personal to the global. The work is just beginning, but its implications reach far beyond the psychedelic community.
If you’re looking for personalized guidance and support before or after a psychedelic experience, the Unlimited Sciences Psychedelic Info Line offers free, 1:1 support for answering questions about psychedelic safety, integration and emotional processing. We’re an evidence-based, non-judgemental space to get the answers you’re looking for.
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